085 rh. Re: well,..why (how) even talk about it?!!!

Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:40:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rod Hemsell <rodhemsell@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: well,..why (how) even talk about it?!!!
To: scienceandspirit@sriaurobindocenter-la.com

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Intersubjetively all:

I think the comments of Rich, Ron, Vikas, Don, etc. over the past few days have covered an extraordinary range of important ideas. And I really appreciate the treatment of Habermas and subjectivity. It is clear that this term refers to a domain of shared values and language that is created through "culture":

Rich said:

"While an individual may arrive at knowledge through a sudden flash of insight, Habermas insists that such knowledge enters the intersubjective sphere only by being translated into rational, accessible discourse. The sphere of intersubjectivity is not the creation of a single individual psyche, but is a medium of communicable knowledge, created and maintained through the interaction of many subjectivities."

It would be helpful to have similar clarifications of terms like "consciousness," "intelligence," "integral" and "non-dualism" as well.

Meanwhile, regarding the cubing of the sphere, here are a few lines to bear in mind from Savitri:

"And when the ambiguous crowded parts have met The many-toned unity to which they moved, The Artist's joy shall laugh at reason's rules; The divine intention suddenly shall be seen, The end vindicate intuition's sure technique. A graph shall be of many meeting worlds, A cube and union-crystal of the gods;…"

And as for the point whre consciousness began on earth, well, it began as unconcsious Mind with the big bang:

‘A gas belched out from some invisible fire…
Across the thick smoke of earth's ignorance a
Mind began to see and look at forms
And groped for knowledge in the nescient Night:
Caught in a blind stone-grip Force worked its plan
And made in sleep this huge mechanical world,
That Matter might grow conscious of its soul
And like a busy midwife the life-power
Deliver the zero carrier of the All.
Mind flowed unknowing in the sap of life
And Matter's breasts suckled the divine Idea.’