From: Debashish Banerji
Date: July 25, 2005 7:54:12 AM PDT
To: rjon@vzavenue.net
Subject: Intersubjectivity, individual and collective yoga
Reply-To: postaum2005@sriaurobindocenter-la.com
Rich et al,
I have been browsing with interest the posts flying at supersonic speed
on this list without being able to take much part due to a very
pressured present schedule. However, on the subject of
intersubjectivity and the collective yoga, I would like to add a few
words for now (and maybe elaborate later, when time permits).
In 1967, The Mother had a conversation with a student, where she
modifies the idea quoted by Rich from Sri Aurobindo. In effect, she was
saying that certain things have changed after the manifestation of the
supramental - and one of these is the increased pressure being felt for
a collective realization - even prior to individual realization! This
is also an example of how Sri Aurobindo and the Mother revised their
views in the light of time. I am attaching this quote from the Bulletin.
Re. intersubjectivity, I appreciate Rich's post re. Habermas and see
its applicability and urgency in light of Mother's words about the
pressure for the collective yoga. However, I would like to add that
there are different understandings of "intersubjectivity". Habermas,
who is invested in a rational democratic process is outlining
conditions of collective understanding in what may be called the
"public space" of modern civil society. Such a space assumes a
conglomerate of rational human beings. The problem that other
post-structuralist philosophers have had with this is that humanity has
not justified the expectation of rationality too well through its
millenia long history because the roots of reason are planted in
irrational (or in very rare cases, suprarational) soil.
Intersubjectivity for thinkers like Merleau-Ponty (and Heidegger, who
talks of it in terms of a being-in-the-world) is a more complex matrix
of collective possibility, in which they do not make the primary
assumption of rationality. While I understand the utility of
Habermasian rational conditions for consensus in intersubjective
conditions, I would like to suggest a different kind of
intersubjectivity to that of the "public space" of rational
individuals, marked by mental ideas and opinions. This is the affective
space of 'community'. An affective space starts with a basic affective
(heart-based hopefully deepening to an even deeper, psychic-based)
acceptance of all others in the community as constituents of an
intersubjecvtive reality, while knowing full well that there may not be
a congruence of ideas. In our own larger collective, for example, which
Mother is talking about, there are a large variety of articulated and
unarticulated 'opinions' about even the fundamentals that are not
shared. Within this intersubjective speech community, creative
transactions of speech are much easier and make for constant changes in
the bases of understanding. This shift from an ideological to an
affective intersubjective space facilitates the growth of collective
understanding in a much more organic fashion. However, I understand
that there is a "public space" "out there" and the expansion of Sri
Aurobindo and the Mother's views into that intersubjective space is a
greater challenge, but even here, if a modicum of non-ideological and
fundamental affective acceptance of a common human condition is not
present (and this is difficult to enginner without the awakening of an
aspiration towards the destiny of the human) rationality will serve us
little. And now, here are Mother's words:
Debashish
____________________
The Mother, Bulletin, IX:4 (November 1957), pp. 143-7.
Disciple:
It seems the general consciousness
has gone down since the Ashram began to grow in large proportions. What
is the reason and how to raise the general level?
The Mother:
"This is a thing somewhat complicated.
I will try to explain it. For a long time the Ashram was only a
gathering of individuals, each one representing something as an
individual, but without any collective organisation. It was like
isolated pawns on a chessboard and possessed only an apparent unity;
there was rather the bare superficial fact of their living together at
the same place and having some common habits, a few only, not many.
Each one progressed-or did not progress-according to his own capacity
and had a minimum relation with others. So in the measure of the
individuals constituting this heterogeneous body, one could say there
was a general value, but a very floating value with no collective
reality. That lasted a very very long time.
It is only quite recently that the
necessity of a collective reality began to appear, a collective reality
not necessarily limited to the Ashram but embracing all who have
declared themselves-I do not mean physically, I mean in their
consciousness-as disciples of Sri Aurobindo, and who have endeavoured
to live his teaching. In all of them and more strongly since the
manifestation of the supramental consciousness and force, the necessity
of a true common existence has awakened, which is based not merely upon
purely material circumstances, but represents a deeper truth, and which
is the beginning of what Sri Aurobindo calls a supramental or gnostic
community.
Naturally Sri Aurobindo has said that
for this the individuals constituting the collectivity must themselves
possess the supramental consciousness, but even before this perfection
is attained individually, it has become necessary to make an inner
effort to create this collective individuality, if one may say so. The
need of a true union, a deeper bond is being felt and the effort has
tended towards such a realisation. That has brought some trouble;
because the tendency before was so much individualistic that certain
habits have been upset. I do not mean physically, for things are not
very different from what they were, but internally, in a little deeper
consciousness, and a certain interdependence has been created-I insist
on this point above all-which has somewhat lowered the individual level
except for those who had already arrived at an inner realisation strong
enough to resist the leveling action.
It is this that gives the impression
that the general level has come down, which is not exact; the general
level is on a higher plane than what was before, but the individual
level has gone down in many cases, and individuals who were capable of
one realisation or another have felt, without understanding it, weighed
down under a load which they had not to carry before and which is due
to this interdependence. But it is quite a temporary result and will
finally end, on the contrary, in an amelioration, a very perceptible
general progress. Naturally, if each individual were conscious, if,
instead of yielding to this kind of leveling, he resisted in order to
transform, transmute, sublimate the elements, the influences and
currents received from others, then the whole would rise to a higher
consciousness, much in advance of what was before.
It was towards that that I was
leading without explaining the thing in detail when I spoke of a more
and more urgent necessity to make an effort and I meant precisely one
day to explain to you that the individual effort you may put in,
instead of being merely an individual progress, will spread, so to say,
and have very important collective results, but I said nothing for
months. I wanted to prepare the consciousness of each individual so
that they might admit, I should even say recognise the necessity of a
collective individuality.
It is that which has to be explained
now. There is no other reason for this sort of apparent lowering, but
it is not really so. It is the spiral movement of progress which
necessarily implies that one should travel away from a certain
realisation so that it may be made not only wider but also higher. If
everyone collaborates consciously and with goodwill, it will be done
more quickly. It was an imperative necessity if the life of the Ashram
were to continue. A thing that does not progress necessarily declines
and perishes, and if the Ashram were to last, it had to make a progress
in its consciousness and become a living entity. That is all. In the
spiral of our progress we are a little away from the line of
realisation that we were following for some years, but we shall come
back to it on a higher level. That is the reason.
Apparently there may be movements
seeming to contradict what I have just told you, but it is always so;
for everytime you want to realise something, the first difficulty that
you meet is the opposition from all that was not active before and now
awakens to offer resistance. All that does not want to acquiesce in
this change naturally wakes up and revolts, but that has no importance.
It is the same thing as happens in the individual being. When you want
to make a progress, the difficulty you wished to conquer increases
tenfold in importance and intensity in your consciousness. You have
only to persevere. That is all, it will pass away."
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094 db. I'd like to see an "affective intersubjective space" based on a real community
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