From: "Richard" (mrcarlson@olympus.net)
Date: July 18, 2005 3:29:59 PM PDT
To: rjon@vzavenue.net
Subject: Re: Questioning Neo-Darwinism
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Hi Don

I
think the example just restates what Michael alluded to, namely that
these guys can't really agree among themselves, are always debating and
the whole scientific enterprise is constantly in flux . In this
instance you have a very liberal Darwinist ( Gould ) versus a Ultra
Darwinist (Dennet) . I guess the biologist I really like however, is
Brian Goodwin -who you probably already know- who is at Shumacher
College and the Open University in London. He has a running debate with
Richard Dawkins concerning self organizing systems versus natural
selection. Goodwin is heavily influenced by Goethean Biology and as
such is close to my heart (Sri Aurobindo called Goethe a Vibhuti) but
he also argues for the primacy of morphology in explaining many facets
of evolution.

here is a blurb from http://66.201.42.16/viewitem.php3?id=79&catid=66&kbid=ionsikc

Brian
Goodwin, in contrast to the majority of biologists who emphasize
randomness and chance in evolution, prefers to affirm the "deep
intelligibility of nature". A Canadian by birth, he studied biology at
McGill University and mathematics at Oxford, an education which has
aided him in his desire to introduce into biology some of the basic
ideas of modern physics and mathematics such as field theory and
complex dynamics. He went on to study with the eminent C. H. Waddington
at Edinburgh, from which stems his lasting interest in the
relationships between the growth and development of organisms and their
evolution.

Goodwin's work at the Open University includes many
practical research projects?"from the investigation of dynamic patterns
in fruit-fly development to the mathematics of leaf and flower
patterns?"which are finding resonances with past scientific thinkers,
such as Goethe and those of the Hermetic Tradition, who affirmed the
intrinsic order and harmony of nature. He still makes time to
participate actively in wider issues, such as health and the
environment and global ecology, which he sees as irrevocably linked to
the way in which we understand life itself.

epistemologically yo's
rich

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From: Jan Maslow
To: rcarlson@olympus.net
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: Questioning Neo-Darwinism

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this is great rich, thanks so much. gould continues to surprise me.